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Cos & Effect pt 2

Journal Entry: Mon Mar 14, 2011, 12:11 AM



Since the last journal was getting quite long, here is a new journal lol.

I sent the following response regarding the AA:


Hi Greg,

I appreciate your response. Also, I appreciate that you are an actual staff member hahah...

Although it may seem like the event is making "concessions" for the artists, it is not entirely so. A substantial chunk of attendees are greatly attracted by the AA, if it isn't the sole reason for them to go. In fact, photographers and cosplayers are artists themselves, so they do appreciate having the AA with other fellow artists.

I agree with you that the past "abandonment" of tables has been rather unsightly, if not unfair to other artists who didn't manage to get tables. Personally, I usually do stay the full duration of the convention, and I am glad to hear about the lenience of the policy regarding emergencies and such. I know that my table mate could not attend the entire convention last AE due to an emergency. Perhaps you could arrange for a list of backup artists if this sort of thing happens?

My main objection to the imposed fee is that, it changes the entire loose and artistic atmosphere of the AA, turning it into a setting no different from, or worse than the Dealer's room. It is a most unappealing "vibe", as a fellow artist has told me. And especially since it's such a closed space, the "prison" vibe is certainly plausible.

Also, may I have some details regarding the screening process of AA applicants? I know that 3-5 samples are reviewed, but I don't know what constitutes acceptance. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Judy J.



No problem! As long as we're able, we do our best to reply to every question or concern.

Yep, it's true! artists can add a lot to an event, just like a dealers section. That was something we considered as well, when we decided to have the Artist Alley at Cos & Effect.

I'm not sure about backup artists, but we'll have a waiting list made up of everyone who applies who isn't able to get a table. But if people skip out during the convention itself, it's very unlikely any artist would be able to drop everything and fill in a spot for half a day or a day, as well as have enough artwork immediately on hand to sell.

We're open to alternative suggestions regarding the fee for abandoning tables early, but we're just shy of the deadline for releasing the final artist alley application details. Also, I think this may be a good way for some artists to learn that even just their PRESENCE has value at a convention. For instance, when I visit an artist alley, I may only buy art from a handful of tables, but I still want to stop and see each one, and I enjoy each table's unique offerings. When an artist leaves early, they deprive potentially hundreds of people, or even sometimes thousands, or more, of the enjoyment of browsing their table.

Regarding the screening process, we've asked the panel of judges from Cloudscape to screen based on overall quality of work (regardless of artistic style, or form), as well as based on how likely the items are to be popular with the kind of people that attendeed AE. So if you are selling pefect replications of the Mona Lisa, you may not get in, because it probably won't appeal to the attendees. If are selling perfect replications of the Mona Lisa, in different cosplays, you might stand a better chance (possibly a horrible example there, but hopefully you get the idea?). Also, bringing a variety of types of products will help, but you won't get a table just based off of that. For instance, if you have awesome art and you bring just prints, and someone else has equally awesome art, and they bring prints, and buttons, they'll have a slight edge. But someone with unrelated, or generally poor art, even if they have prints, and buttons, and bookmarks, and wrist bands, and plushies, will be at a disadvantage compared to the others. I hope that makes sense?

Sincerely,
Greg Neher



So guys, if you have any suggestions as to what they should do about artists skippin' out for the vast majority of the con, fire them away, and I'll deliver it to Greg. I am sending ideas of my own, too. I hope this helps. (:

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=mosobot64 Mar 15, 2011  Student General Artist
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RAISE A FLAG! HELP JAPAN!

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~zimmay Mar 15, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Wow... if there were fees for 'abandoning' your table early at a convention, I'd be pissed. I normally have flights to catch on the last day of a con, and sometimes I have to pack up and leave well before the AA closes.

Maybe remove the usual 'no squatter' rule, and let artists at the convention without a table pay a smaller fee (same price as the 'abandonment' fee maybe?) to take over an open table to do commissions at? Even without prints and buttons to sell, an artist can still set up sketch commissions or caricatures as long as they have paper and something to draw with.

Bbl, drawing Mona Lisa cosplaying Naruto.
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~joodlez Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I suggested that the artists already at the convention be allowed a chance to expand their space by paying that same "fee" instead of punishing the artists that leave. They claimed that it is impractical to contact a new artist last-minute.
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~SinLigereep Mar 15, 2011   Digital Artist
How about lower the fee and make a rule that if people were to leave their table to mingle, they could put a sign up saying when they will be back and won't get fined if they get back on time?
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:icondralionvarekai:
You really think $40 is a lot? At lot of artists at AE would net more than 10 times that. If they made it much lower, then it would not be a significant deterrent. I ban might be a much better deterrent, in that it is much harsher. So I take they are just being nice in only asking for $40 instead of banning them. ^^

I am glad to see you had a rational conversation with Greg. =) Some people are jumping to (wildly wrong) conclusions, and just sticking there.
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~joodlez Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
$40 is a lot, no matter how much we make. $40 is $40, money is not a relative sum. I don't think you are in position to understand what goes into being an artist at the AA, so kindly refrain from speaking for us.

Moreover, my beef is not with what the actual amount is, but what a fine entails. It creates a whole new atmosphere, none of it good -- especially since there was NEVER such regulation imposed on the artists. How did you really think we would react?
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~Kaiyobi Mar 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Suggestion to them: BRING BACK AE but I don't think that's doable.

But thank you for your hard work in communicating with those frustrating people! We really appreciate it. 8D
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~Hypogeum Mar 14, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What if they're also selling stickers? Statuettes? Ty-D-Bol tablets? George Foreman Grills?

A good barbecue can be considered as art, you know!
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*OverlordJC Mar 16, 2011   Filmographer
They'd probably fine you for the preparation time, because you wouldn't have BBQ available for anyone that wants it.
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~Hypogeum Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I probably shouldn't tell them about how I set fire to a couple people on accident, then.
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